Well I had the guy's unit extended all the way....there is no way I am detecting like that! Can anyone tell me the length of the coil cable?
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
From what I can see(I just looked) it appears maybe 10" long before it goes into the control unit. It's not the same end on the inner end as on the outer,it is perhaps hard wired when it gets into the control case. An extension cable would likely be your best bet,that way there's no cobbling of any kind going on and if you wanted to put it back to stock it would be very easy.
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
Yes, I think that it could be done.
Did it with Explorer XS and went beyond just hip mounting it.I wanted a chest mounted control box and detached the control box off the handle of the Explore XS and mounted it on a chest mount plate with shoulder harness. Made a separated power supply by way of another box , eventually with Lipo battery pod that was also attached to the same plate.I did a;ll this so I could see the screen, when I was wading in water just up to my chest, but under the height of the control box. I also made the Pinpoint and Iron Mask control switchable with my thumb, on the new shaft assembly. A little complicated to set it up and I did end up losing one of my Explorer XS's to my yearnings to do this. I blame that on a lack of patience and lack of glasses.
Apart from the lack of counter balance, (also another important consideration) especially when I used the 15 inch WOT coil with the aide of something called a Swingy Thingy, it was and still is a pretty good set up. It's a handy way to use the Explore XS for me for land detecting as well as I never had to put the control box the ground any more.:clsoedeyes:
If you don't require to look at the screen often , it MAY be that you simply require a cable extension, for the search coil to the screen, control box and upper shaft of the CTX3030 I'd be trying to obtain such a cable first, say at least 3' long, to see if the CTX3030 works with such and would allow you to determine if the CTX3030 is going to work with such.
You could attach the intact stock upper shaft of the CTX3030 with it's screen and battery, on a sling across your chest or put the stock upper shaft into a back back or connected to a belt around your waist of a shoulder harness. You could probably use the upper and lower shaft assembly of another detector or even utilize the stock lower shaft of the CTX3030 and make an upper shaft adapter for it. There's are few possibilities including the remote mounting of the PinPointer button on such a mod , but would it require a lot of patience and an understanding of what needs to be done.
I used to consider the possibility of chest mounting the screen of the CTX3030, by separating it from the upper shaft and rehousing the power supply and it's electronics, such that it was all a chest mounted unit, unlike my old Explorer XS unit ( that I still have ).
after years of using the CTX3030 as it is, l've come to realize there is little advantage to doing this other than placing it's screen closer for viewing which can help to an extent of you rely on what the CTX3030 screen is also telling you.
As I use both the screen that I look at with the sound that I get over a target or two when detecting, I have found it to be perfect the way the CTX3030 is and have kept it just as it is because I have also realized that I can get the best results from detecting with the CTX3030 as it is.
Life is just too short to get caught up with doing a mod that I have found has a marginal advantage in the way you use it and does very little to increase a detectors finding ability.
You could also possibly make a longer lower shaft to suit your needs or even make an adapter to extend the stock length lower shaft to suit your needs, but if you give it a chance, I think you'll eventually adapt to using the CTX3030 as it is and probably just forget about it because you'll probably to busy detecting and finding stuff.:thumbup:
david id
Did it with Explorer XS and went beyond just hip mounting it.I wanted a chest mounted control box and detached the control box off the handle of the Explore XS and mounted it on a chest mount plate with shoulder harness. Made a separated power supply by way of another box , eventually with Lipo battery pod that was also attached to the same plate.I did a;ll this so I could see the screen, when I was wading in water just up to my chest, but under the height of the control box. I also made the Pinpoint and Iron Mask control switchable with my thumb, on the new shaft assembly. A little complicated to set it up and I did end up losing one of my Explorer XS's to my yearnings to do this. I blame that on a lack of patience and lack of glasses.
Apart from the lack of counter balance, (also another important consideration) especially when I used the 15 inch WOT coil with the aide of something called a Swingy Thingy, it was and still is a pretty good set up. It's a handy way to use the Explore XS for me for land detecting as well as I never had to put the control box the ground any more.:clsoedeyes:
If you don't require to look at the screen often , it MAY be that you simply require a cable extension, for the search coil to the screen, control box and upper shaft of the CTX3030 I'd be trying to obtain such a cable first, say at least 3' long, to see if the CTX3030 works with such and would allow you to determine if the CTX3030 is going to work with such.
You could attach the intact stock upper shaft of the CTX3030 with it's screen and battery, on a sling across your chest or put the stock upper shaft into a back back or connected to a belt around your waist of a shoulder harness. You could probably use the upper and lower shaft assembly of another detector or even utilize the stock lower shaft of the CTX3030 and make an upper shaft adapter for it. There's are few possibilities including the remote mounting of the PinPointer button on such a mod , but would it require a lot of patience and an understanding of what needs to be done.
I used to consider the possibility of chest mounting the screen of the CTX3030, by separating it from the upper shaft and rehousing the power supply and it's electronics, such that it was all a chest mounted unit, unlike my old Explorer XS unit ( that I still have ).
after years of using the CTX3030 as it is, l've come to realize there is little advantage to doing this other than placing it's screen closer for viewing which can help to an extent of you rely on what the CTX3030 screen is also telling you.
As I use both the screen that I look at with the sound that I get over a target or two when detecting, I have found it to be perfect the way the CTX3030 is and have kept it just as it is because I have also realized that I can get the best results from detecting with the CTX3030 as it is.
Life is just too short to get caught up with doing a mod that I have found has a marginal advantage in the way you use it and does very little to increase a detectors finding ability.
You could also possibly make a longer lower shaft to suit your needs or even make an adapter to extend the stock length lower shaft to suit your needs, but if you give it a chance, I think you'll eventually adapt to using the CTX3030 as it is and probably just forget about it because you'll probably to busy detecting and finding stuff.:thumbup:
david id
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Re: No tones on deep targets
Great graphs - in this case worth a 1,000 words. I'm switching over to Manual tomorrow.
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Re: Repair of broken mounting tangs on 11" coil?
MEK is illegal to sell and probably have in Orange and LA counties here in CA.
San Diego may be ok though.
San Diego may be ok though.
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
There is a lot of 6' 4" out there including me. I have short arms as my golf clubs are 1" long. No problem with the shaft length as it typically is about an inch or so from fully extended. If it is the balance that is a possible issue I hunt with the 17" coil and a detecting buddy, both in and out of the water. I can go all day without arm or shoulder fatigue.
Perhaps the beach machine was modified in some fashion?
Perhaps the beach machine was modified in some fashion?
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Re: Gold next to iron
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stateguyt
I here alot that people find coins next to iron.
But what about gold does that happen to anybody
I am new to the Ctx more of a excal guy.
This machine has alot of features and i am not sure if it will increase my gold finds as much as i thought it would
Diddo. I just converted from my Excal to 3030 for finding more gold; primarily with use of the 17" coil and more selective elimination of trash (esp bottle caps). I also appreciate the ability to program my own sound frequencies.
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I can sure understand that. Hang in there, shouldn't be too much longer with April just around the corner.
Here in my parts of PA we were lucky this winter. Maybe a weeks worth of frozen ground at best.
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grayghost headphones for 3030
When using the grayghost headphones are the target sounds suppose to be low.
The sounds on my machine are about 1/4 of the sound of the land headphone volume is at max
Is there another setting to use besides the volume to make the sounds louder
The sounds on my machine are about 1/4 of the sound of the land headphone volume is at max
Is there another setting to use besides the volume to make the sounds louder
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Re: grayghost headphones for 3030
Unfortunately the GG phones volume even at max is too low for a lot of ctx users.
John
John
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Re: No tones on deep targets
Unless you've already tried this, go into Response and click on Pitch Hold. Andy stressed this point at the Gettysburg bootcamp and said that some deep targets that do not produce any audio can still cause a change in the threshold. In my test garden this proved to be correct. This change in threshold also made me slow down over the targets and be able to "bring out" some actual audio. Of course this is my test garden and I am aware of where the targets are even if I can't here them. Out in the field utilizing this pitch may very well drive you batty because it's a bit noisy but I'm pretty sure it can give you the ability to uncover deep targets that you can't normally here. I plan on using it from here on out
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Re: No tones on deep targets
each to their own I guess that's why detectors have features and as Jason said do your own testing and its solid advice I do my own testing and use what works best for me..
so not here to pass judgement on how others detect its "what ever works" right :biggrin:
only advice I have is have fun testing :biggrin:
AJ
so not here to pass judgement on how others detect its "what ever works" right :biggrin:
only advice I have is have fun testing :biggrin:
AJ
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
Its been done before, can't remember who did it but when it was done, he or someone found prefabbed extension cables and I picked up a couple in case I needed to do it. Cables can be still found on the auction internet site by searching for DEE2R-83D Cable. I'd be willing to part with mine since I'll not be going that route....PM me if interested.
Another possibility is to check into Anderson shafts..... Pete "may" be able to make a special one a few inches longer. I know there is "NO" problem with the cable stretching and a shaft 3.5 inches longer other than it throws the balance off somewhat, it can be used easy enough with a slightly longer shaft.
Cliff
Another possibility is to check into Anderson shafts..... Pete "may" be able to make a special one a few inches longer. I know there is "NO" problem with the cable stretching and a shaft 3.5 inches longer other than it throws the balance off somewhat, it can be used easy enough with a slightly longer shaft.
Cliff
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Re: Anyone hip mount their 3030?
Custom length lowers are available...
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Re: Gold next to iron
Run in Ferrous / Coin Target Separation with Target Trace and Target Trace Pinpoint both on. Run a "screener" such as Jay's Gold Program. When you hear a partial response pull the trigger and look at the screen to see if there are two cursors. Where you have one iron cursor down in the lower right corner--thats the iron. When you have another one in your screen box at left and it's stable (not bouncing around)--dig--that will be low conductor target next to iron. This is the method I've developed to get gold in close to iron. This will really show you what the CTX can do.
cjc
clivesgoldpage.com
cjc
clivesgoldpage.com
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Re: Won't let me see it......
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Champ Ferguson
Who? Your wife?
:crylol:
I watched seasons 1 & 2 on daily motion. Funny and well done; at least in my book.
Rich
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Re: CTX 3030 Combined Mode Ferrous line
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I have mine set at 25 I think. Lowering the line will get you more coins, but it will increase the amount of iron bleed-though too. It's all a trade off, and you have to figure where your line of diminishing returns is at. There are multiple ways to ferret out the iron falses, and more you learn, the more open you can run your pattern.
I just moved my FE line to 35 from 24 because I wasn't finding anything anymore in a iron laced grassy area that I have been hunting for years with the ctx. As soon as I did that I started getting hits. Yes you dig a bit more small iron but its finding me coins. Yesterday I dug up 4 wheaties, 1 indian head cent, 3 v-nickels and a barber dime.
Compared to the other hunts that yielded a few wheaties. I put the head of a old square nail on top of a silver mercury dime and got a clear signal on FE 35, moved to FE 24 and the dime signal was gone I only heard the iron. I don't mind digging more as long as I'm finding coins maybe a gold coin!
HH
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Jason in Enid
I have mine set at 25 I think. Lowering the line will get you more coins, but it will increase the amount of iron bleed-though too. It's all a trade off, and you have to figure where your line of diminishing returns is at. There are multiple ways to ferret out the iron falses, and more you learn, the more open you can run your pattern.
I just moved my FE line to 35 from 24 because I wasn't finding anything anymore in a iron laced grassy area that I have been hunting for years with the ctx. As soon as I did that I started getting hits. Yes you dig a bit more small iron but its finding me coins. Yesterday I dug up 4 wheaties, 1 indian head cent, 3 v-nickels and a barber dime.
Compared to the other hunts that yielded a few wheaties. I put the head of a old square nail on top of a silver mercury dime and got a clear signal on FE 35, moved to FE 24 and the dime signal was gone I only heard the iron. I don't mind digging more as long as I'm finding coins maybe a gold coin!
HH
You are definitely mastering your machine! Congrats on pulling out so many more keepers!
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CTX 3030 Hacking and Custom Applications.
Hi guys. I wanted to start a second thread on this topic.
My good friend and I were studying the pictures posted by mypenneys showing the internals of the CTX 3030. If you look at the picture I have uploaded it appears to have not only a JTAG port but also a RS232 Port.
From looking through the source code of the CTX 3030 it runs a modified version of BusyBox. In theory we should be able to get a shell on the CTX 3030 by hooking it up through serial and execute commands on the device and possibly
run custom applications. I know there is a lot of great things about the CTX 3030 but how great would it be if we were able to create custom applications or make minor tweaks that could speed up the analysis of A specific target.
My friend is going this Friday to look at a 3030 for sale and has plans to take a poke at the PCB. I'm sure he will update any progress made right here on Findmall.
The one thing I am hoping to find on this forum is someone who might have a broken 3030 (screen broken/missing/ or even just the main PCB itself) that they would like to donate to science. Even if the machine does not turn on it would be very useful to
attempt to access the flash on the device and do a dump. We have used Binwalk to extract the filesystem from the update file but does not contain every aspect of the device. The Source code that minelab has on their website is mainly just the booatloader itself, and bits-and-pieces
of Busybox. If anyone has any technical knowledge of the above please feel free to join in on this. If anyone is interested in the idea of custom applications and has any broken 3030 components please let me know.
My good friend and I were studying the pictures posted by mypenneys showing the internals of the CTX 3030. If you look at the picture I have uploaded it appears to have not only a JTAG port but also a RS232 Port.
From looking through the source code of the CTX 3030 it runs a modified version of BusyBox. In theory we should be able to get a shell on the CTX 3030 by hooking it up through serial and execute commands on the device and possibly
run custom applications. I know there is a lot of great things about the CTX 3030 but how great would it be if we were able to create custom applications or make minor tweaks that could speed up the analysis of A specific target.
My friend is going this Friday to look at a 3030 for sale and has plans to take a poke at the PCB. I'm sure he will update any progress made right here on Findmall.
The one thing I am hoping to find on this forum is someone who might have a broken 3030 (screen broken/missing/ or even just the main PCB itself) that they would like to donate to science. Even if the machine does not turn on it would be very useful to
attempt to access the flash on the device and do a dump. We have used Binwalk to extract the filesystem from the update file but does not contain every aspect of the device. The Source code that minelab has on their website is mainly just the booatloader itself, and bits-and-pieces
of Busybox. If anyone has any technical knowledge of the above please feel free to join in on this. If anyone is interested in the idea of custom applications and has any broken 3030 components please let me know.
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Took the dirty 30 to the playground
I travel a lot with me job so I take my detector with me I get to hunt a lot of different places usually don't have alot of time by the time I get off its getting dark but I found a playground that was lit up good and decided to check it out found alot of clad and just barely got a sound out of this 10k chain just happen to look down when I heard it and saw a little bit of it shining through the wood chips anybody else have trouble with the 3030 on gold chains?
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